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Created page with "== Who is Randy Brown? == == More info here. == == Controversies == ==== Is Randy a disinformation agent? ==== Randy Brown has a long history of sharing strange stories and refusing to cite his sources when making claims that contradict known information. He's also quick to call information, stories written by survivors, and crime scene photos "fake." Here are some of those stories and posts. ===== Randy Brown's strange claims - a list ===== ====== Rachel Scott died..."
 
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==== Is Randy a disinformation agent? ====
==== Is Randy a disinformation agent? ====
Randy Brown has a long history of sharing strange stories and refusing to cite his sources when making claims that contradict known information. He's also quick to call information, stories written by survivors, and crime scene photos "fake." Here are some of those stories and posts.
Randy Brown has a long history of sharing strange stories and refusing to cite his sources when making claims that contradict known information. He's also quick to call information, stories written by survivors, and crime scene photos "fake." he tends to claim stories and pieces of evidence are fake when people ask questions about specific off-limits topics, like Steven Curnow's death, Dave Sanders' death, the ability to see into the school windows, and Rachel Scott's death. He also makes a serious effort to discredit all of Eric and Dylan's friends. Here are some of his bizarre claims.


===== Randy Brown's strange claims - a list =====
===== Randy Brown's strange claims - a list =====


====== Rachel Scott died 12th in a firefighter's arms ======
====== Rachel Scott died 12th in a firefighter's arms ======
[[File:Randyclaimsracheldied12th.jpg|alt=Randy Brown claims Rachel Scott died 12th in a firefighter's arms.|left|thumb|Randy Brown claims Rachel Scott died 12th in a firefighter's arms.]]
Randy Brown, along with Brian Rohrbough, maintain that Rachel Scott was the 12th person to die at Columbine. They have stated this numerous times, including in a [https://archive.org/details/bob-enyart-brian-rohrbough-randy-brown-audios podcast interview with Bob Enyart] and on [https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbine/comments/pvjwbm/comment/hex1sma/?context=999 Reddit]. When pressed for a source, Brown claimed that Rachel Scott died in a firefighter's arms and that firefighter personally told him about this incident.
''This is easily confirmed as false''. Although we don't have a timestamp on the helicopter footage, the footage clearly shows SWAT officers rescuing Richard Castaldo and placing him on the bumper of the firetruck they borrowed. The officers go back to get Rachel Scott, and she is already dead. However, as they note in their interviews, they decided to rescue her body anyway to protect it.
SWAT can be seen dragging Scott's lifeless body behind the firetruck and later, dragging her off to the side, and finally dragging her body away from the path where students were running. All this happens early on and there are never any firefighters with Rachel - only SWAT members.


====== Eric Harris killed Dylan Klebold and this is supported by evidence ======
====== Eric Harris killed Dylan Klebold and this is supported by evidence ======
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====== The Columbine cafeteria is not the Columbine cafeteria ======
====== The Columbine cafeteria is not the Columbine cafeteria ======
[[File:Randybrownnotcafeteria.jpg|alt=Randy Brown says this is not the Columbine cafeteria.|none|thumb|Randy Brown says this is not the Columbine cafeteria.]]
A Reddit user asked if anyone thought the police would have been able to see Eric and Dylan through the cafeteria windows. They used a photo of the Columbine cafeteria and overlaid images of Eric and Dylan just for visual effect. They circled the cafeteria windows, which were crystal clear. Of course, the image wasn't really Eric and Dylan in the cafeteria, but Randy Brown said the picture of Columbine's cafeteria wasn't actually Columbine's cafeteria.


====== Dave Sanders is not Dave Sanders ======
====== Dave Sanders is not Dave Sanders ======
[[File:Randybrownnotdave.jpg|alt=Randy Brown says this is not Dave Sanders.|none|thumb|Randy Brown says this is not Dave Sanders.]]
When questioning whether [[Dave Sanders]] had been shot outside, a Reddit user pointed out that he had a dark spot on his shirt that remained present as he ran. Another Reddit user posted the photos circling the spot and Randy Brown said the photos were not Dave Sanders.


====== Dylan Klebold is not Dylan Klebold ======
====== Dylan Klebold is not Dylan Klebold ======
[[File:Randybrownnotdylan.jpg|alt=Randy Brown says this is not Dylan Klebold.|none|thumb|Randy Brown says this is not Dylan Klebold.]]
A Reddit poster found an image of Dylan Klebold that was made to look as if it was a video. When asking if it was Dylan, Randy Brown said it was fake. It's possible that he meant it wasn't truly a video, but the poster asked "I was wondering if this is really Dylan K.," to which Brown replied, "Fake."


====== The SWAT helmet cam tour was not filmed in Columbine High School ======
====== The SWAT helmet cam tour was not filmed in Columbine High School ======
We do not have this screen shot at the moment, but will update this post when we find it.
A Reddit user posted the video that SWAT made for the JCSO final report documenting the maze of classrooms SWAT members encountered when sweeping the building. This video was filmed from a helmet cam after the shooting, but before all of the repairs were done, as some of the broken ceiling panels are still hanging down. Although this was [https://extras.denverpost.com/news/colreport/Columbinerep/Pages/SWAT_MOVE_TEXT.htm released in the official report], Randy Brown claimed this video was not Columbine High school and said he has been in the school and the hallways did not look like that.


====== Devon Adams wrote a fake memory of visiting Rachel Scott's grave ======
====== Devon Adams wrote a fake memory of visiting Rachel Scott's grave ======
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====== No ballistics information was released that would allow us to know how many shots the shooters fired ======
====== No ballistics information was released that would allow us to know how many shots the shooters fired ======
====== The SWAT team helmet cam tour is not Columbine High School ======

Revision as of 03:30, 22 January 2023

Who is Randy Brown?

More info here.

Controversies

Is Randy a disinformation agent?

Randy Brown has a long history of sharing strange stories and refusing to cite his sources when making claims that contradict known information. He's also quick to call information, stories written by survivors, and crime scene photos "fake." he tends to claim stories and pieces of evidence are fake when people ask questions about specific off-limits topics, like Steven Curnow's death, Dave Sanders' death, the ability to see into the school windows, and Rachel Scott's death. He also makes a serious effort to discredit all of Eric and Dylan's friends. Here are some of his bizarre claims.

Randy Brown's strange claims - a list
Rachel Scott died 12th in a firefighter's arms
Randy Brown claims Rachel Scott died 12th in a firefighter's arms.
Randy Brown claims Rachel Scott died 12th in a firefighter's arms.


Randy Brown, along with Brian Rohrbough, maintain that Rachel Scott was the 12th person to die at Columbine. They have stated this numerous times, including in a podcast interview with Bob Enyart and on Reddit. When pressed for a source, Brown claimed that Rachel Scott died in a firefighter's arms and that firefighter personally told him about this incident.

This is easily confirmed as false. Although we don't have a timestamp on the helicopter footage, the footage clearly shows SWAT officers rescuing Richard Castaldo and placing him on the bumper of the firetruck they borrowed. The officers go back to get Rachel Scott, and she is already dead. However, as they note in their interviews, they decided to rescue her body anyway to protect it.

SWAT can be seen dragging Scott's lifeless body behind the firetruck and later, dragging her off to the side, and finally dragging her body away from the path where students were running. All this happens early on and there are never any firefighters with Rachel - only SWAT members.


Eric Harris killed Dylan Klebold and this is supported by evidence
A bloody 9mm live round was found on Steven Curnow's body and traced to a police weapon
The Columbine cafeteria is not the Columbine cafeteria
Randy Brown says this is not the Columbine cafeteria.
Randy Brown says this is not the Columbine cafeteria.

A Reddit user asked if anyone thought the police would have been able to see Eric and Dylan through the cafeteria windows. They used a photo of the Columbine cafeteria and overlaid images of Eric and Dylan just for visual effect. They circled the cafeteria windows, which were crystal clear. Of course, the image wasn't really Eric and Dylan in the cafeteria, but Randy Brown said the picture of Columbine's cafeteria wasn't actually Columbine's cafeteria.

Dave Sanders is not Dave Sanders
Randy Brown says this is not Dave Sanders.
Randy Brown says this is not Dave Sanders.

When questioning whether Dave Sanders had been shot outside, a Reddit user pointed out that he had a dark spot on his shirt that remained present as he ran. Another Reddit user posted the photos circling the spot and Randy Brown said the photos were not Dave Sanders.

Dylan Klebold is not Dylan Klebold
Randy Brown says this is not Dylan Klebold.
Randy Brown says this is not Dylan Klebold.

A Reddit poster found an image of Dylan Klebold that was made to look as if it was a video. When asking if it was Dylan, Randy Brown said it was fake. It's possible that he meant it wasn't truly a video, but the poster asked "I was wondering if this is really Dylan K.," to which Brown replied, "Fake."

The SWAT helmet cam tour was not filmed in Columbine High School

We do not have this screen shot at the moment, but will update this post when we find it.

A Reddit user posted the video that SWAT made for the JCSO final report documenting the maze of classrooms SWAT members encountered when sweeping the building. This video was filmed from a helmet cam after the shooting, but before all of the repairs were done, as some of the broken ceiling panels are still hanging down. Although this was released in the official report, Randy Brown claimed this video was not Columbine High school and said he has been in the school and the hallways did not look like that.

Devon Adams wrote a fake memory of visiting Rachel Scott's grave
Someone wrote a fake letter pretending to be Eric Harris' childhood friend, Sarah Davis
No ballistics information was released that would allow us to know how many shots the shooters fired
The SWAT team helmet cam tour is not Columbine High School