Sally Hocker

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SYNOPSIS:

Assist to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department with the investigation of the Columbine High School homicide.

INVOLVEMENTS:

Witnesses:

COLORADO STATE PATROL - 2207 N. HWY 402 LOVELAND. CO. 80537 (970)663-0219

-Investigator Greg McComas

CIVlLIAN WITNESSES:

(W)Hocker, Sally

SUMMARY:

04-28-99/Wednesday

Per information control sheet #1612, I contacted (W)Hocker at her residence, regarding information on possible suspect accomplices.

(W)Hocker stated that on 04-20-99, at approximately 11:25am, she was driving Northbound on Pierce St., past Columbine High School, en-route to Clement Park for a walk. As she drove past the school she noticed a JCSD patrol car entering the main parking lot. Once past the school she pulled into the park, using the Pierce St. entrance, and observed a small brown sedan, which she described as a "Civic type" vehicle, exiting the lot very quickly. (W)Hocker stated, at the time she did not think the activity was especially unusual and did not pay much attention to the vehicle. She was unable to provide any information reference the vehicles occupants other than she thought it was driven by a young male, with another male passenger. She did not notice its direction of travel after leaving the lot.

(W)Hocker stated as she continued driving Westbound through the parking lot, she observed a motorcycle officer cut through the lot and across the grass toward the school. She parked her van in the West parking

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area, near the playground, and began her walk.

At approx. 11:30 a.m., as she was walking on the lower trail near Columbine Hill, she heard an extremely loud noise, and thought to herself the school's science lab had blown up. Approx. one minute later, she noticed a white male with dark hair, dressed in a white t-shirt and light colored blue jeans, walking down the hill from the soccer field, away from the school. (W)Hocker stated the male looked to be high school age, 17-18, and appeared very calm, walking in a "nonchalant" manner. She then observed two, slightly older males, walking Northbound on a path leading out of a housing area greenbelt. Both of these males were dressed in all black, with short black coats and black pants. She watched as all three individuals met and talked briefly. According to (W)Hocker, the meeting appeared to be pre-arranged and very matter of fact. She stated all three parties were very calm, showing no emotions. They paid no attention to her and were not bothered by her presence or the activity surrounding them at the school.

(W)Hocker stated she continued her walk, following a path away from the trio. After a short distance, she turned to see where they were and observed they had walked partially up the hill, toward the soccer field and were standing together looking toward the school. Shortly thereafter, she was advised by a park worker of the shootings at the school and returned to her vehicle and left the area.

(W)Hocker stated she never got close enough to the three males to distinguish any identifying characteristics. She did not see any of the individuals carrying objects, including weapons or duffel bags, but felt their calm, unemotional demeanor was very suspicious in light of the activities surrounding them.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

(W)Hocker drew a rough diagram of the park and the locations where she observed the three males meeting. That diagram is attached to this report.

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Did Hocker encounter one of the Splatter Punks?

Three young men who called themselves the Splatter Punks (Matt Nalty, Jim Brunetti, and Matt Akard) were arrested in a field adjacent to Columbine High School around 2:00 p.m. One was seen on the news being interviewed in a car next to Chris Morris.

They were initially considered suspects, but were cleared by law enforcement. However, many details about their story don't add up. For instance, they claim to have heard about the shooting on the radio, so they drove over to the school from the Broomfield area, which is a 30-40-minute drive. However, the two individuals Hocker saw around 11:30 a.m. match the Splatter Punks' description ("dressed in all black, with short black coats and black pants"). If those individuals were the Splatter Punks, and they took a 30-minute drive, they left long before the shooting was reported on the radio.

This individual was also witnessed walking over Columbine Hill toward Clement Park by Nancy Lindsey.

For information concerning the controversy around these individuals, visit the Splatter Punks page.

From Hocker's interview:

"She then observed two, slightly older males, walking Northbound on a path leading out of a housing area greenbelt. Both of these males were dressed in all black, with short black coats and black pants. She watched as all three individuals met and talked briefly. According to (W)Hocker, the meeting appeared to be pre-arranged and very matter of fact." (11k, p.7512)